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Post by ralip on May 25, 2006 21:56:20 GMT -5
Is anyone interested in starting up a Writing Group? I fully support what Steven said on the subject...but where do we go from here? I've never belonged to any groups because for me the most critical issue is to find a group of people I'm comfortable with. The unifying factor on this forum is Steven's philosophy on life and his approach to writing. This resonates with me so I would be comfortable belonging to a writing group of like minded writers. Any takers?
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Post by paul wolfe on May 26, 2006 3:20:02 GMT -5
Hi
I would be interested in joining/starting a writing group along the lines that Steve suggested in one of his recent emails.
I will keep checking back to the forum so see how many people are interested and we can go from there!
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Paul
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Post by ralip on May 26, 2006 16:39:00 GMT -5
I'm interested...in fact I posted something about this yesterday...
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Post by paul wolfe on May 27, 2006 13:25:49 GMT -5
Let's start one then!
Here is what Steve wrote about writing groups...seems as good a blueprint as any for the writing group to adhere to. Hopefully a few more people will sign up!!!
Let's talk about some ground rules for what I would call the "Lifewriting" approach to creating a writing group. 1) All members must be aligned in purpose. In other words, you don't want bad vibes in the room, negative energy, people who are there to tear others down. 2) The purpose must be a continual deepening of process and understanding, as well as publishing success. 3) Emphasis should be on the relationship of character to structure, rather than merely the "quality" of the work. "Stars" will inevitably arise in any writing circle, but instead of just saying "I liked X or Y in your story" the questions should deal with the way that the structure of the work revealed the inner world of the characters, and the way that the themes of the work reflected the real concerns of the writer.
There's more, of course, and I may go into that. One very powerful thing you should do is identify terrific books and courses on writing (like the LIFEWRITING YEAR LONG, http://www.lifewrite.com) and have everyone in the group either purchase their own copies (great idea!) or pool money to get one copy to share. Sigh. This relates to rule #1--alignment in purpose. Your attention should be OFF each other and ON the work itself, your commitment to producing the finest work you are capable of creating. Anything less than that is a waste of your time!
Regards
Paul
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Post by Steven Barnes on May 28, 2006 12:57:18 GMT -5
Guys--start with each other. Share your hopes and dreams and needs, and see if you can agree to support each other. Make a contract: to do this for X weeks or months, or Y number of stories or pages. Then do it. See how it feels, if it supports your mutual dreams. You can post comments here if you wish--share as much of your process as you feel comfortable doing. Look into the structure of the work, and your ideas about characterization--I'll chime in from time to time , and othrs probably will too!
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Post by ralip on May 29, 2006 7:10:23 GMT -5
I'm ready.... Still don't know what to do. Do we meet periodically? If so when? Do we just email each other or is there a chat place we go to? What is the protocol for discussion of posted work? I've visited some of the groups already out there and, to my huge dissappointment, it's a love -fest. They post some passage or chapter from the novel they're currently working on and everyone responds about how great it is even if it's terrible. Not interested. I know there are also excellent writing groups but I haven't found them. I agree with Steven that we need to have a contract that spells out the purpose, time-frame and ground rules for the members of the group. This way we all start on the same page with mutual goals. Again, how do we go about accomplishing this?
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Post by paul wolfe on May 30, 2006 7:15:47 GMT -5
Hi Ralip
Why dont we try and come up with a consensus by email on what to do based on some of the stuff Steve said in his post. My email is paul@carteblancheinfo.com, so please feel free to drop me a line and we will work something out. Dont think it will be possible to physically meet up - I live in London!
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Paul
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Post by Steven Barnes on May 30, 2006 12:23:17 GMT -5
While I can't read all of your work, I'll be happy to referee the groups themselves. I STRONGLY suggest that you start with the Hero's Journey and the Chakras. Just look at each other's work to see how well you can identify the steps of the journey, or the levels of human personality stressed or explored in the work. Develop a framework within which to view the story, like a doctor's "fast check" of a newborn's fingers and toes. Once you start understanding how these two aspects interrelate, you will find it easy to dig deeper into the process.
So...yes, exchange e-mails. Send stories back and forth. Invite others to join you in the process. Eventually, we may figure out a way to set up a chat site where more useful work can be done. Don't be brutal, and don't be merciful or cloying. Just speak primarily of structure...then, secondarily or whether it's "good" or not. Structure will take you there, friends. Study it until it becomes instinctive.
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